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<channel><title><![CDATA[Around The Word Theology for the Curious Christian - Miscellany ]]></title><link><![CDATA[https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/miscellany]]></link><description><![CDATA[Miscellany ]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 17:42:43 -0600</pubDate><generator>Weebly</generator><item><title><![CDATA[My Faith: Relationship or Redemption]]></title><link><![CDATA[https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/miscellany/my-faith-relationship-or-redemption]]></link><comments><![CDATA[https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/miscellany/my-faith-relationship-or-redemption#comments]]></comments><pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2016 06:00:00 GMT</pubDate><category><![CDATA[Uncategorized]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/miscellany/my-faith-relationship-or-redemption</guid><description><![CDATA[       &ldquo;How is your relationship with Jesus Christ?&rdquo; Good? Bad? Non-existent? It&rsquo;s complicated? Are you close to God or far from Him?&nbsp;We&rsquo;ve all heard questions such as this, perhaps rolling our eyes at the awkwardness of the question but not being able to diagnose accurately the reason for our uneasiness. In fact, we may fear that questioning such a pious question might seem un-Christian and unbecoming of a person having &ldquo;a good relationship with Jesus.&rdquo;  [...] ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><div class="wsite-image wsite-image-border-none " style="padding-top:10px;padding-bottom:10px;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;text-align:center"> <a> <img src="https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/uploads/2/5/6/3/25633380/relationship-vs-redemption_orig.jpg" alt="Picture" style="width:auto;max-width:100%" /> </a> <div style="display:block;font-size:90%"></div> </div></div>  <div class="paragraph" style="text-align:left;">&ldquo;How is your relationship with Jesus Christ?&rdquo; Good? Bad? Non-existent? It&rsquo;s complicated? Are you close to God or far from Him?<br />&nbsp;<br />We&rsquo;ve all heard questions such as this, perhaps rolling our eyes at the awkwardness of the question but not being able to diagnose accurately the reason for our uneasiness. In fact, we may fear that questioning such a pious question might seem un-Christian and unbecoming of a person having &ldquo;a good relationship with Jesus.&rdquo; This &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; language has become the widely accepted way of describing the Christian&rsquo;s life of faith (or a non-Christian&rsquo;s lack of it). A &ldquo;good relationship&rdquo; with Christ is likely that faith life of the strong Christian. A &ldquo;bad relationship&rdquo; is perhaps that faith life of the wandering sheep. A &ldquo;non-relationship&rdquo; may refer to that faith-less life of the unbeliever. Despite its common usage, could it be possible that the language of relationship is an unhelpful and unbiblical way of speaking of the Christian&rsquo;s life of faith? While usually well-intentioned and innocently put forth, might such &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; language undermine the full comfort of the gospel and give a false picture of what salvation means for the Christian?<br /><br /></div>  <div>  <!--BLOG_SUMMARY_END--></div>  <div class="paragraph" style="text-align:left;">The way we use the word &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; in our everyday conversations often describes a friendship or acquaintance with another person. A father has a relationship with his children. It can be a good relationship, with the father &ldquo;close&rdquo; to the children, having joyful conversation and appreciation for them and spending time with them. It can also be a bad relationship, full of tension, with the father &ldquo;distant&rdquo; from the family. Relationships with friends can grow or shrink, morph or implode, as the friends grow closer or further from one another. Furthermore, the culture takes up the language to describe a courtship or even a marriage. Facebook, the well-known social media network, informs our use of the term, creating relationships with the click of a mouse and forcing a boyfriend to describe himself as &ldquo;in a relationship&rdquo; with his girlfriend, lest her &ldquo;friends&rdquo; raise eyebrows at his commitment to her.<br />&nbsp;<br />To be sure, more things can be in a relationship than just people. The sun is in relationship to the earth. As that relationship changes, so does the weather. An airplane has a relationship to the ground. As the plane takes off or lands, that relationship can be described differently: closer, further, growing, shrinking, etc. In each example, whether in the case of people or objects, the language of relationship describes the closeness between two objects; the closer the objects to one another, the better the relationship. In fact, to be in a relationship necessarily implies that the objects or persons are separate from one another&mdash;the relationship merely describes the amount of separation.<br />&nbsp;<br />The language of relationship is the way we often instinctively describe marriage. How is your relationship with your spouse? Good? Bad? Complicated?<br />&nbsp;<br />When we use the language of &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; to speak of our Lord&rsquo;s gift of marriage, we contradict the very way that the Lord Himself speaks of marriage: &ldquo;For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh&rdquo; (Genesis 2:24). Man is united to wife as ONE. No separation, no distance, and no relationship. No distance between them to be described as close or far&mdash;the Lord simply gives marriage as the &ldquo;one flesh union.&rdquo; <em><strong>To bring the language of relationship to the marriage is to risk ripping away the oneness.</strong></em><br />&nbsp;<br />In the very same way, we are not in ANY relationship with Jesus. To be in a relationship with Him, even if we were to call it &ldquo;good,&rdquo; would still suggest separation from Him. And separation from God is the opposite of salvation. This is precisely why the Lord gives marriage: to describe the mysterious union between Christ and His Bride the Church (Ephesians 5:31-32). Our Lord Jesus does not want to be far from us, but to be with us (Immanuel), to baptize us into His Name and be with us always. He wants us to be in Him, and He in us (John 17:21-24). This union had existed at creation, prior to man&rsquo;s fall into sin, but an eternal distance was placed between man and God because of sin. Because of sin, man found himself in a relationship with God for the first time&mdash;and any relationship with God is a bad one. But now, through the blood of Jesus, we have been reconciled to God&mdash;restored to oneness with Him; the relationship was restored to unity through the cross. Through Jesus Christ, sin is forgiven, guilt removed, shame cleansed.<br />&nbsp;<br />An examination of various popular translations of the Scriptures reveals that the English word &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; is rarely found in most translations (including the NIV and NAU) and never found in others (including the ESV, KJV, NKJ, and RSV). There is no Greek or Hebrew equivalent for the concept of &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; in the English language. When we do run across the language of &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; in the New Testament, it&rsquo;s almost always used to expound upon the Greek, to clarify a thought, or to smooth out the translation. For example, the NIV&rsquo;s translation of Romans 2:7 includes this phrase: &ldquo;if you rely on the law and brag about your relationship to God,&rdquo; but the Greek holds the simple three word phrase <em>kauxasai en Theo </em>(&ldquo;boast in God). The concept of &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; is added here for the purpose of clarification. In the GWN (God&rsquo;s Word to the Nations), the concept of &ldquo;reconciliation with God&rdquo; is translated &ldquo;restored relationship with God&rdquo; (e.g., Romans 5:10, II Corinthians 5:18-20). Such an English rendering of &ldquo;reconciliation&rdquo; as &ldquo;improved relationship&rdquo; undermines the unity to which we have been restored. We have been reconciled, and that reconciliation is not a relationship but a unity.<br />&nbsp;<br />&ldquo;Do you have a relationship with Christ?&rdquo; When we think of our life of faith in such a way, we bring distance between the Lord and us. Then, the Christian is left to try to close the gap in some way. Such a Christian&rsquo;s logic likely begins with the Gospel, but then the relationship question brings doubt: <em>&ldquo;Salvation is free; we can&rsquo;t save ourselves; Jesus did it all and restored your relationship with God. BUT, how is your relationship doing? Do you want it to be better?&rdquo;</em> Following this logical progression, how would the Christian improve the relationship if not by works or emotional manipulation? Perhaps he thinks he needs to &ldquo;feel closer&rdquo; to God through some sort of mystical experience or &ldquo;get closer&rdquo; to God by his better imitation of Jesus. Either way, by thinking he is in a &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; with God, the full comfort of the gospel is stripped away as he looks at his relationship and wants to improve upon it <em>himself.</em> When will he be close enough? When will he know his relationship is strong enough? How will he finally rest in the peace of knowing he&rsquo;s in a good relationship?<br />&nbsp;<br />It&rsquo;s never enough&mdash;the sinner will never close the gap, improve the relationship, or get closer to God&mdash;<em>if it&rsquo;s up to him.</em> Tormented by the potentially weak nature of his &ldquo;relationship&rdquo; the sinner is tempted to look to himself, his works, and his emotions to improve upon that relationship. Wrapped up in his own relationship-improvement, his eyes are taken off the cross and off his neighbor&mdash;looking inward for comfort. The comfort for the sinner is that Christ has made us one with Him. His perfection, holiness, and righteousness are ours. We&rsquo;re covered in His blood&mdash;fully wrapped in Him. No relationship to improve; no gap to close; no feeling to strengthen. It&rsquo;s out of our hands&mdash;it has been fully finished by His hands on the cross. We have been reconciled to the Father&mdash;we are unified with God through Jesus Christ.</div>  <div><div style="height: 20px; overflow: hidden; width: 100%;"></div> <hr class="styled-hr" style="width:100%;"></hr> <div style="height: 20px; overflow: hidden; width: 100%;"></div></div>  <div class="paragraph" style="text-align:left;"><em>Rev. Seth Clemmer is pastor to Mt. Calvary Lutheran Church in Estes Park, Colorado. That&rsquo;s just one of his relationships, and it&rsquo;s good. His marriage to Mandy is not a relationship&mdash;it&rsquo;s a marriage&mdash;and it&rsquo;s awesome. If you don&rsquo;t get that yet, re-read the article.&nbsp;</em>&#9786;&#8203;</div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Amtrak Ignition]]></title><link><![CDATA[https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/miscellany/amtrak-ignition]]></link><comments><![CDATA[https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/miscellany/amtrak-ignition#comments]]></comments><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 17:20:28 GMT</pubDate><category><![CDATA[Uncategorized]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/miscellany/amtrak-ignition</guid><description><![CDATA[       &nbsp;Even if you should suffer for righteousness&rsquo; sake, honor Christ, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you, with gentleness, and respect.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs [...] ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><div class="wsite-image wsite-image-border-none " style="padding-top:10px;padding-bottom:10px;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;text-align:center"> <a> <img src="https://www.whatdoesthismean.org/uploads/2/5/6/3/25633380/9117988_orig.png" alt="Picture" style="width:auto;max-width:100%" /> </a> <div style="display:block;font-size:90%"></div> </div></div>  <div class="paragraph" style="text-align:left;">&nbsp;<em style=""><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">Even if you should suffer for righteousness&rsquo; sake, honor Christ, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you, with gentleness, and respect.</span></em><span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~1 Peter 3:14-16 excerpts</span><br /><br /><br />&ldquo;I worship the God and Goddess,&rdquo;said the Celtic pagan. (He was Irish by descent.)&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />He set down his cane and slumped into the booth across from us as the train hurtled through some part of late<span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;="" mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">-</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">night Ohio. He was thirty</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">-</span>one, on his way home from visiting his six<span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">-</span>&nbsp;year-old daughter in Chicago. Nice guy.</div>  <div>  <!--BLOG_SUMMARY_END--></div>  <div class="paragraph" style="text-align:left;"><br /><span style="">&ldquo;And all my tattoos are symbols of my heritage. They express fertility, life, success.&rdquo; He smiled through his punk rock glasses.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">&ldquo;Right on,&rdquo; I said in the affirming clich&eacute; of my generation. It&rsquo;s hard for people my age to invalidate other's views, and, usually when you&rsquo;ve just met a person, it&rsquo;s not all that bad an idea. To be sure, running through my mind were thoughts of how this well-intentioned chap had a one-way ticket to some place a whole lot warmer than Akron in January. But it was also easy enough to see by his smile that he&rsquo;d heard all that before, and was slightly daring me to say it again. Clearly, the thought didn&rsquo;t bother him much. Why should it? He was convinced the Scriptures of the Christian faith are foolish. So, I didn&rsquo;t lambast my new friend the Irish heathen. Instead, I showed a little interest. I mean, it&rsquo;s not every</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;="" mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style=""> </span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">day that people from the Lutheran Church&mdash;Missouri Synod meet Celtic pagans.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">&nbsp;&ldquo;So, exactly what kind of paganism is it?&rdquo; I asked.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">&nbsp;&ldquo;What do you mean?&rdquo; he said. &ldquo;Do you mean like Wicca or something? No. It&rsquo;s not like that.&rdquo;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">&ldquo;No,&rdquo; I said. I had figured as much. Anyone practicing modern pop-witchcraft would have said as much the same way junior high girls boast about the boy bands they listen to. &ldquo;I mean, well&hellip;I&rsquo;m not familiar with Celtic lore. Is it related to the druids?&rdquo;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">&ldquo;No,&rdquo; he smiled. </span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;="" mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">&ldquo;</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">Not druids. Just <strong style=""><em style="">Celtic</em></strong>. I guess the closest thing to it would be Norse paganism. We were influenced by it.&rdquo;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">&ldquo;Crazy,&rdquo; I said, which means something more like, &ldquo;far out,&rdquo; to us under forty-somethings. Shaking my head, I laughed a little. What else you going to do? &ldquo;So,&rdquo; I hesitated, eyeing the others at the table, who had broken impromtu world religions dialog to make room for the new participant, &ldquo;how do you find other people to practice with? I mean, are you in the phone book?&rdquo;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Now he laughed. &ldquo;Oh, no. But there are lots of us around. Just use the internet, and you&rsquo;ll find someone.&rdquo;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <em style=""><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">Google knows</span></em><span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">, I thought.&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">The conversation had been rather unexpected to begin with, even before this point, between the nineteen year-old, ex-Presbyterian</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">,</span><span style=""> now new-age-baby-neo-hippy (more than ready to confess herself &ldquo;one&rdquo; with the cosmos,) to the ex-Bible-Church-Christian-DCE turned homosexual and free-though relativist, (who kept getting frustrated with me for insisting that facts mean something,) to the ex-Roman Catholic, humanist-philosophical-secular-materialist (who was in the middle of his post-teen-angst-life-crisis as he tried to decide how he might possibly pursue a life of pure hedonism without driving himself into the despair that philosophy had already taught him his worldview demanded he eventually create,) to the front-man of a Seattle grunge band (who looked to the eye a curious blend of Marilyn Manson and Tom Petty, and whose music produced a similar effect.) There was little doubt that I was immersed in a fantastic thunderstorm of ideas and conversation in the midst of the demographic most evangelism programs are simply incapable of reaching as they go door-to-door in the suburbs on Sunday afternoon.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">It had all started when I heard the hippy and the philosopher embroiled in a conversation over how she was kicked out of her Christian congregation for asking too many questions.&nbsp; </span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">B</span><span style="">eing ordained clergy but who, for all </span><span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">my</span><span style=""> thirty years, still looks just over eighteen, I couldn&rsquo;t refrain from chiming in and offering to answer some of her unanswered &ldquo;taboo&rdquo; questions. Before long, we weren&rsquo;t alone. The evident animation of our conversation had soon become an all-inclusive cattle-call for the lounge car, drawing each of the seven residents straight into a good-natured battle of worldviews (except the passed-out drunk, fifty-year-old lesbian biker with the vocabulary of Calamity Jane&mdash;she was...well...passed out).&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">While everyone was enjoying it, I have to confess that my seminary training was serving me very well. I felt like a theological Chuck Norris, staving off a torrent of Wikipedia-informed combatants with practiced martial skill, careful never to take the green-belts to the mat with a bone-crushing, one-shot blow to the head, but nonetheless countering their every attack with just enough deftness to keep them coming back for more. Reject(er)s of mega-church society as they mostly were, the last thing they needed was the pat answers they&rsquo;d already heard. What they needed was to spar, to have a chance to win, to test their streetwise moves and find the value (or lack thereof) of their own disciplines.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">This is where &ldquo;evangelism&rdquo; as a concept, I believe, so often goes so terribly wrong. Power-point bullet points and Watchtower-style scripted hot-boxing work well enough with older women staying home in the mid-afternoon, but to the post-modern/semi-emerging generation, these approaches not only don&rsquo;t work so hot, to the contrary, they tend to do more damage than good. Lauding on about your personal relationship with Jesus only further convinces these &ldquo;unchurched&rdquo; that Christians really all are the idiots TV portrays them as. These friendly, intelligent, trendy-counter-culture, grown-up &ldquo;kids&rdquo; were fed up with the &ldquo;will you go to heaven&rdquo; sales pitch. They&rsquo;d left worries about heaven and hell far behind, with the crayons they&rsquo;d used to color in Happy Jesus and and his side-kick Alls-Well-as-Ends-Well Job. To them, to <strong style=""><em style="">us--</em></strong>we the buste(d)rs trapped bet</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">w</span><span style="">een X and Millenial&mdash;to us hell only exists for people like Adolph Hitler and George W. Bush. My new friend, the nineteen year-old hippy, (a very sweet girl who was returning from having just met her long lost sister, put up for adoption twenty years prior,) was actually looking forward to death. She thought it would be <strong style=""><em style="">cool</em></strong>. At last she&rsquo;d be able to become nothing and everything at once, her body dying, but her soul and consciousness living on in the elements of Mother Nature, communing spiritually with flowers and animals and even other people, who would feed on her life essence.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">No. These emerging adults didn&rsquo;t need evangelism exploding in their faces. They didn&rsquo;t need the message nearly all the denominations of Christianity have learned from Warren and Hybels and Jakes and Oprah (and they from Finney.) Their all-superna</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">tura</span><span style="">l sixth-sense of &ldquo;feelings&rdquo; had long ago convinced them such superficial religion couldn&rsquo;t possibly be real. They wanted to find something more authentic, something completely divorced from the secularized gloom of pop-Christianity. Church growth had more than Church-depleted them. They&rsquo;d been raised to seek &ldquo;spirituality,&rdquo; not &ldquo;religion,&rdquo; and it was clear that if anything is religion, (defined by legalism, anti-intellectualism and cheap</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style=""> </span><span style="">feelings) it&rsquo;s American Christianity.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Most of them had had a devotional relationship with &ldquo;their&rdquo; Bible. They had tried &ldquo;believing&rdquo; in Jesus. But their contribution to the mass-exodus from American congregations was because this &ldquo;faith&rdquo; had proven itself a <strong style=""><em style="">fraud</em></strong>. It didn&rsquo;t make them feel better like it promised. They didn't experience more of God every day. And the most appealing purposes in life involved adultery and cigarettes.&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">What this generation hadn&rsquo;t heard, what it needs to hear, what they somehow missed hearing despite their many previous connections to the &ldquo;Church</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">,</span><span style="">&rdquo; was, amazingly, something as simple as the rule of faith held by the once-universal creeds. They did not need a ritualized babbling of the ancient words as the second-most boring part of worship, but the confession of meaning-filled theology that touches mind, heart and will combined. They needed words that martyrs died to keep, whispering them to their children before going to the executioner. They needed to know the purpose, not of themselves, but of Jesus Christ. They needed not the antiquated &ldquo;doctrine&rdquo; of memorized lists and bodiless Bible verses, but the antiquous dogma of believing what those ancient words really mean.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Or, put it this way. If we want to find real so-called &ldquo;missional&rdquo; thinking for the 2</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">1st-</span><span style="">century, we need to get the heart out of the drivers&rsquo; seat where it&rsquo;s been ever since the boomers enthroned it over the mind. Putting the heart in the backseat, and letting the good brains our Lord gave us sit shot-gun, the Word of God is more than capable of driving the mission to reach the countless post-modern versions of paganism. These seven heathen didn&rsquo;t need to hear me talk like Billy Graham. They didn&rsquo;t need to hear me talk about a &ldquo;God&rdquo; or a &ldquo;Jesus&rdquo; or a &ldquo;heaven&rdquo; that they just <strong style=""><em style="">had </em></strong>to believe in &ldquo;because.&rdquo; If they wanted mysticism, they much preferred Celtic paganism, which holds far more beauty and depth than &ldquo;faith&rdquo; in the platonic-buddy Jesus dressed up like a carrot in a manger.&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">These grown-ups in </span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;="" mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">Skechers</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style=""> actually <strong style=""><em style="">wanted</em></strong> to hear&ndash;<strong style=""><em style="">couldn&rsquo;t get enough of hearing</em></strong>&ndash; about Christianity spoken of objectively. <strong style=""><em style="">Historically</em></strong>. They wanted a chance to believe that Christianity really is as stable as Celtic paganism, grounded in a God who shows up in places other than my heart, and trustworthy for more reasons than that the Bible (which fell out of heaven) &ldquo;says so.&rdquo; Hearing about a God who once broke into the world physically, tangibly and unavoidably, shattered their defenses against all the &ldquo;God-things&rdquo; and &ldquo;Divine-moments&rdquo; they&rsquo;d been told about before, all the more so because, beyond believability, they&rsquo;d never actually heard of it! They had never heard that Christianity isn&rsquo;t about the Ten Commandments being posted in schools or homosexuality being banned from marriage or earth being only six-thousand years old. They had never heard that the reason to be a Christian is actually because there was this man named Jesus, who was real, and who really died on a cross under the Roman Empire, and after three real days, really <strong style=""><em style="">rose from the dead</em></strong>.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">&ldquo;Dude. That&rsquo;s gnarly.&rdquo;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Through all the critical moments that these children of fading Christendom had encountered over a lifetime of expensive measures and props for conversion, they had never been given the real answers of discipleship: they had never heard that &ldquo;There was this guy in history who beat death&hellip;.And, oh, by the way, he said a few things that are pretty challenging to hear.&rdquo; That was why the young Irishman was now a Celtic moon-worshiper and not a Roman Catholic: Celtic pagans have <strong style=""><em style="">doctrine</em></strong>, and they <strong style=""><em style="">believe it</em></strong>. That is why the recent ex-Roman philosopher hadn&rsquo;t bothered to read the New Testament since the eighth grade, but was now looking to Aristotle and Kant for the answers to the world&rsquo;s questions: Aristotle and Kant never bothered to dumb it down for him. They challenged him to find the answers in well-thought arguments and turns of phrase. That is why the homosexual post-DCE was content to let all truths be true: Woodstock Jesus, who just wanted him to be happy, had no good reasons for preventing him from having sodomy with whomever he desired. If the &ldquo;Church&rdquo; had forgotten the real message of Woodstock Jesus, about love and freedom to pursue pleasure, too bad for them.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Every single one of them had been-there/done-that a long, long time ago. And they&rsquo;d learned from it. They&rsquo;d learned they're various forms of anti-Christianity from <strong style=""><em style="">Christians</em></strong>. We had taught them &ldquo;Jesus makes me happy,&rdquo; and they had realized we had taught them <strong style=""><em style="">lies</em></strong>.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">So how did it all end on that night train through Ohio, my wife asleep with my two kids in coach and me sitting up &ldquo;partying&rdquo; until three am? We covered the gambit, from &ldquo;why should I believe what the Bible says,&rdquo;(Answer: because Jesus is risen from the dead, so what he says is probably right,) to &ldquo;why is abortion wrong?&rdquo;(Answer: because Jesus is risen from the dead, and he likes babies to stay alive,) to &ldquo;how is the morality of Christianity any better than the moral teachings of Islam or Buddhism?&rdquo;(Answer: it isn&rsquo;t so much, but Jesus is risen from the dead, and that means something far more important than moralism!) And for all the times they&rsquo;d been told to believe in Jesus so they could be saved, through all the Sunday school and VBS and youth group parties, with all the pressure tactics and emotional manipulation of charismatic worship, amidst the history-channel/Dan-Brown misinformation of the age, not one of them had ever been forced to reckon with the all important claim that the reason to be a Christian is because history is on the side of the empty tomb, and it is that fact alone which <strong style=""><em style="">creates</em></strong> faith in the one True God.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Justification? Atonement? Salvation? These things came up, to be sure. But these meanings which explain the deeper &ldquo;whys&rdquo; of the history danced in and out of the conversation only to support the main point:&nbsp; creation is dying and the new creation has already been born in the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He changed the rules, and he did it in a way which inevitably leaves the honest critic and historian either completely stumped or converted. Everything else has become a moot point. Being the only man in history to die and not stay dead, Jesus of Nazareth now more or less owns the trump card on what&rsquo;s true and what&rsquo;s false. Proving his own claim to the Sonship of God, the impending issue ceases to be whether or not you bother to accept him as your personal Lord and Savior. Instead, the issue is suddenly whether or not he accepts you as one of his sheep.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">On the flip side, if Jesus <strong style=""><em style="">didn&rsquo;t</em></strong> walk out of that tomb, the game is over. Christianity just can&rsquo;t win. Karl Barth once tried to fight that losing battle by separating the Christ of history from the Christ of faith, only to create a new Christianity, one which served only to support your preferred personal assumptions&mdash;not much of a discipline for spiritual enlightenment.&nbsp; But that is exactly where those seven people on that train had gone! Children of the spirituality of Barth, they had never even heard of the Christ of history from Christians. So what? Their faith was simply not about real things. It was all mythology after all, like Celtic paganism, or nature-love, or mammon. For them the &ldquo;faith in faith&rdquo; in which they still believed, was the end goal of all religions after all. Wasn&rsquo;t it?&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Well, it was, at least, until this upstart young pastor walked into their philosophosizing and made the audacious claim that Christianity isn&rsquo;t about believing in Jesus &ldquo;so that&rdquo; you can get into heaven. It&rsquo;s about Jesus dying on a cross and rising from the grave because creation sucks and he refuses to leave it mired that way.&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Christianity is not about &ldquo;faith.&rdquo; It&rsquo;s about Jesus. It&rsquo;s about what he said about <strong style=""><em style="">himself</em></strong>.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s about what he did <strong style=""><em style="">by himself</em></strong>. And it&rsquo;s about the reasons and effects of what he said and did: to give you no other choice but to believe that what he said and did is the cornerstone of human history, without which there is no real reason to be alive at all. Or, if you must, to self-admittedly live in a world of ignorance, chance, empty answers and eventual defeat.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">It was a small crusade that night on a train from Chicago to Philadelphia, me and that underrepresented under-thirty crowd, all of them more or less committed to abandoning Christianity because of its self-righteous-sounding, heaven-peddling, historically ignorant evangelism&mdash;not to mention the mammon-corrupted promotional bureaucracies manipulating the strings for the sake of profit&mdash;yes, these kids </span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">k</span><span style="">new the Church is simply &ldquo;incorporated</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;="" mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">.</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">&rdquo;&nbsp; The good news of it? We talked about the resurrection of Jesus Christ so much that eventually the philosopher began being the one to say to the others, &ldquo;To understand his point about homosexuality or Islam, you have to remember that it&rsquo;s based on the fact that Jesus is risen from the dead.&rdquo; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Mission accomplished.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">The bad news? Well, there was no mass conversion. To begin with, most of them were baptized once or twice already. That wasn&rsquo;t going to happen anyway. And at three a.m., when the Irishman got off in Akron, I&rsquo;m pretty convinced that he was still cheerily undeterred by anything that I&rsquo;d said.&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">Then again, anyone who thinks that one night on a train is going to undo two</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">-</span><span style="">and</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">-</span><span style="">a</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:="" en-us"="" style="">-</span><span style="">half decades of cultural indoctrination, evangelistic blow-back-antagonism and straight up embittered unbelief, she&rsquo;s got another thin</span><span "font-size:="" 11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">k</span><span style=""> coming.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">The good news again? The Great Commission wants us Christians to go and make disciples, not by any means possible, but by teaching the reality of the Gospels. If and when the emerging pagans hear the story, are confronted by the real message, and reject it for the time being, that is the Holy Spirit&rsquo;s prerogative. We can confess our faith well enough to get an atheist to admit that the historic claim is that Jesus is risen from the dead. But we will <strong style=""><em style="">never</em></strong> argue him into believing it. The point of this article is that if we don&rsquo;t learn again how to speak it, the rest of the next neo-normal generation will never even <strong style=""><em style="">hear it</em></strong>.&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">All seven of those young busters left that train with the choice to either decide that this kid-pastor was certifiably insane (and my sanity <strong style=""><em style="">was</em></strong> a part of the discussion at one point!) or, to wrestle with the fact that every thing they had ever thought about &ldquo;God&rdquo; before needed to be questioned again, because, apparently, he was bigger and more challenging then they&rsquo;d ever imagined.&nbsp; </span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span style="">More than likely, they walked away with a little of both. Like I said, mission accomplished.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">&nbsp;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">&nbsp;</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span>  <span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">Rev. Jonathan Fisk is Pastor for Youth and Witness at Bethany Lutheran Church and School in Naperville, Illinois, and host of the </span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;="" mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">Y</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif"="" style="">ou</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;font-family:="" &quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">T</span><span style="">ube video podcast "Worldview Everlasting." He speaks regularly on topics of new media and postmodern culture, especially as they relate to Lutheran theology and the faith confessed in Luther's Small Catechism. He is the author of the recent book, <em style="">BROKEN: Seven "Christian" Rules that Every Christian Ought to Break as Often as Possible</em> a Christian's guide to interpreting and understanding the classic attacks the devil uses to undermine the Christian faith. In his spare time, he is addicted to Panda Express Orange Chick</span><span "font-size:11.0pt;="" font-family:&quot;palatino="" linotype&quot;,serif;mso-ansi-language:en-us"="" style="">en</span><span style=""> and eats it fortnightly, anticipates dancing with Jak'o the Shadows (and wonders if there will be more Snakes and Foxes,) wastes all his Christmas money on gaming/trading cards, and still thinks he might have a shot at playing in the NBA.</span><br /><span style=""></span><br /><span style=""></span></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>